Forum - View topicEP. REVIEW: Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba Hashira Training Arc
|
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
Shay Guy
 Posts: 2143 |
|
|||
|
Ah, the smell of a fresh new Demon Slayer flame war containment zone.
|
||||
|
||||
KayWhy
 Posts: 7 |
|
|||
|
hashira training is one of my favorite arcs from the manga, mostly because its light, fun, and sprinkles in some nice character moments throughout. praying they dont butcher the pacing for this one
also love or hate the character, but hiro shimono is probably having the time of his life playing zenitsu lmao |
||||
|
||||
|
ZiharkXVI
Posts: 364 |
|
|||
I didn't think of it that way, but now that you say it - yes, that was what I kind of expected from a castlevania anime. Maybe a bit more crosses and holy water. Then again, I have no real love for the Netflix show. First episode here was fun and enjoyable - but I have to admit I don't like the tease of what is to come if they make me wait another year for the final arcs. No spoilers from me, but I know where we are going and this arc is far too short to be a real season. That castle scene was as someone else said likely a metaphor for how we the audience will feel if just this arc is this season (and it appears that is the case). I heard a rumor that they might delve into some additional side story material (I assume as flashbacks). That would help. |
||||
|
||||
Cryten
 Posts: 1004 |
|
|||
It also allows for convenient new power ups whenever they are needed. My only criticism of the episode is it featured too much Tanjiro doing the dragonball over eating gag. That was old the first time they did it. |
||||
|
||||
|
Sekaro
Posts: 358 |
|
|||
|
I don't know why but I was half-expecting the 2 Hashiras to get trapped inside the mugen castle like that was supposedly the plan - lure them into the demons Hideout to get crushed. I thought it could've been an interesting angle to take but alas just the premise of the arc alrdy made me aware that it was not to be.
I'm also leaning towards the side that views that double-length premiere as kinda a waste. I honestly would've been fine if they just treated it as a normal length episode. For a double length premiere, they really needed to hit me with a strong hook to get me invested but it just wasn't there... I'd argue that even swordsmith village arc's double length premiere is better as the introduction of the upper moons was a lot more interesting than this meeting with the Hashiras. The jokes, again miss more than they hit but I supposed that's standard for this series. It also bothers me that every single other corps member are just generic NPC faces that you know won't ever matter at all when the battles happen. Im hoping they take this time to introduce a few more Corps members with actual potential & not just be meatshields but the series seems more interested in the Hashiras & the alrdy established cast. |
||||
|
||||
Covnam
 Posts: 3680 |
|
|||
|
Zenitsu was as annoying as expected, but Nezuko shutting him down like that almost makes it worth it
|
||||
|
||||
|
zaenzcampbaesa1
Posts: 4 |
|
|||
|
Shouldn't a reviewer be somewhat impartial to be making a series of reviews about a show? Why is this person with a clear personal bias distaste for the characters and the storytelling of the series in charge of making the reviews? There are pacing problems with this season premiere, but from the characters there's nothing new that we haven't seen. Zennitsu being obnoxious was the same as it was in season 1 or 2.
Probably the biggest critique about this premiere could be the tone shift between serious moments and comedic gags, but it seems the reviewer is waiting for moments to dislike about this series to keep calling it a popcorn spectacle with little objectivity. This person is most likely not going to give an impartial review of this show from now on, he's already set his mind that this series is simply mindless flare. |
||||
|
||||
|
Cryten
Posts: 1004 |
|
|||
New to reviews? Personality and personal opinion are all part and parcel of a review. Do not take his views as a personal attack on your own enjoyment. They are simply the expression of a columnist in reaction to the piece of media he is reviewing. Now James is often quite expressive and emotional in his writing, that is often what makes his writing stand out. Impartial judgement would just be a rating of the technical aspects of the show. By expressing his opinion and also entertaining us James allows us to see his perspective, and come up with our own in disagreement or agreement. As many people have in this forum. |
||||
|
||||
|
ZiharkXVI
Posts: 364 |
|
|||
I mean, the poster is not wrong - DS is clearly not his cup of tea. The "review" reads more like a rant. I get that a review is just an opinion and all that, but we came out of the gate strong on this one. If the poster is new to this anime's particular reviewer, they may be confused why someone who obviously dislikes the show despite the star ratings (I always felt that if James was being honest he'd rate it lower) is bothering to watch it at all. Or he secretly enjoys it perhaps and is just trolling us? I dunno. |
||||
|
||||
|
Dr. Wily
Posts: 285 |
|
|||
|
^
I think it's more than fair to write a review of a 3 star show that accentuates its flaws and failings (in the reviewer's eye). There's no such thing as an objectively perfect piece of art and I think it's very important for everyone, not just people reviewing things for a job, to maintain a critical eye and recognize flaws on even shows that are good. If every review were just glowing praise, there'd be no point in them. There's a thousand other sites and Youtube videos out there to get those takes. |
||||
|
||||
|
Cryten
Posts: 1004 |
|
|||
|
We could get bogged down in arguing over the standards of reviews but having been through such things quite a few times in these forums, it just comes down to whether you liked or dislike his opinions and style. James doesnt have beef with the show, he has a history of reviewing the show and expresses frustration in an entertaining way.
As far as standards go ANN recognises that reviews are opinion pieces, and encourages it reviewers to show their personality as long as it does not enter the realms of offensive, insulting or derogatory. Demand for a review to have a different opinion just means you would prefer a different reviewer. It is much more constructive to say what you think is good and even to construct an argument for why to praise certain segments. |
||||
|
||||
|
ZiharkXVI
Posts: 364 |
|
|||
I don't think anybody demanded anything. I certainly haven't. I just don't know why he wants to watch - which is more than ever true after reading this. It sounded like he really dislikes what he is seeing. And going back through the thread, I think he even admitted he would rate some episodes even lower which doesn't shock me. It's like asking me to review the 3rd season of Black Clover. I did not like the 1st. I think by season 3 I would hate myself. |
||||
|
||||
|
TheWonderOfYou
Posts: 33 |
|
|||
Opening heavily hints at 3), which was the most likely scenario from the get go. I really don't get why some people were so adamant on the arc adapting only 9 chapters. To me it made complete sense that they would go with 3). Afterwards there are still 66 chapters to adapt, and the more they take out before, the easier for hopefully 26 episodes and not 3-4 movies. |
||||
|
||||
|
gumbaloom
Posts: 272 |
|
|||
Agreed - it would at least give the arc some "closure" of a big battle to end with. If they go strictly according to the manga it would be pretty lame. Previous arcs have been known to have a bit of overlap on occasion so I hope that this is the case this time. Not to mention I'm REALLY hoping UFOTable trolls the fandom with a big cliffhander to end the series and making people wait a year to find out what happens next. |
||||
|
||||
|
James_Beckett
ANN Reviewer
 Posts: 279 Location: USA |
|
|||
Look, I've explained this before, but just in case it bears repeating: I don't hate the show, obviously. If I really didn't want to review it, I wouldn't be covering it. I don't think it's perfect, by any means, and I don't think the show has been at its absolute strongest since its very first season, but the only time I've ever had a downright frustrating/"bad" time with DS was during the Swordsmith Village arc. So far as the tedency for my criticisms to take center stage in the reviews, that simply boils down to the fact that the ways in which DS is good are, by this point, fairly predictable and not especially complicated. It has (for the most part) excellent production values, it has some cool characters, and when it manages to strike the right balance between melodrama and spectacle, the show can cook. Conversely, the show's deficiencies are rather boring but frustratingly consistent issues. It is terrible at exposition, its comedy is very hit-or-miss, and it's capacity for long-form storytelling grows diminished by the season. None of these things are enough to make the show bad (except for maybe the Swordsmith Village Arc), but they are going to be the things that I focus on as a critic when the show isn't making it easy to overlook those flaws with a bunch of flashy-sparky-boom-boom. Point being, while I don't hate the show by any stretch of the imagination, its flaws have become much harder to ignore as the series has gotten long in the tooth, and I have to find creative and interesting new ways to write about them until the season decides to stop dragging its feet and gets to the fun stuff. Also, I will say that it is true that, for the most part, I think Demon Slayer mostly functions as exciting popcorn spectacle. Everything else about its character writing and world building ranges from perfectly fine to downright puzzling. I've never found anything to outright hate about DS' writing, though. Except for Zenitsu. He's legitimately the worst. If he were a real person, I would advocate that he be exiled St. Helena and forced to live out the rest of his days with nothing but a Nezuko doll made out of coconuts and palm leaves for company. |
||||
|
||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group